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I did hurt my boyfriend's ego..

isabelle49

New Member
Hello my name is Isabelle.

So Im a beautician and my hubby is an ex military and a bit macho.All is great but with the job, daily things to do, my yoga… I struggle to get some time with him To fix that, we did decide to make some sport together. One month before the virus… What was the more complicated was to find a sport that can fit for both of us. I wanted salsa or a dance sport (im an ex ballerina) but he refuses, he wants tennis but i hate racket sport… So finally after hours of search and discussion he proposed me judo. I first refuse it but because I see we were blocked I said ok let’s try it…

Finally, after 5 lessons, we both had fun going there. I had the feeling to improve and feel really good practicing. We were on the same club, same training but we had our partner for the “fight part” in the end of the lesson. With the virus, we can’t go anymore, so a few days ago, he asked me to practice at home. We used a mat for safety and worked on the moves as in training. After one hour he challenged me in a friendly match, like for the normal session “if I dare” and he’ll show me “who’s the boss, it’s not like dancing or yoga things…”.

It was the first time we have a match together. Well, i practiced ballerina during years and yoga 3 times per week but he outweight me and he is so much taller and he is an ex military so im not too much confident.. but ok let’s try it!

We hang each other kimono and turn around. I quickly noticed the previous exercices tired him more than me. I pull his sleeve, to the left, to the right, I straighten my leg out and fall on him to the ground. He struggle to escape but I pin him and count to 5 (we need to pin the opponent 5 sec to win). his face was all red and while he get up. I don’t know wich one of us wer the mroe surprised. I can’t hide myself from smiling.

Now he seems really focus and we start again. I still smile while he seems really serious. I pull his kimono again and got him the exact same way. On the ground I quickly wrapped my arms around his head and I block his legs with my feet. He struggle but I had a good grip so i count to 5 and win… Before I release himI whisper on his ear “ouch your ballerina got you badly this time, where is the tough soldier now?” and I kissed him in his cheek. I get up (and dance a bit to celebrate i confess) and prepare for the 3rd round but he said he didnt want anymore

Later I struggled not to have a strange silence that can sometimes happen. He says nothing and I make a monologue about housework. It seems that he doesn’t want to do judo anymore. I laugh a bit at first, asking him if it’s because I beat him, but he answers me aggressively that no, he just thinks it’s a waste of time.

I haven’t talked to him about it, but he looks different like he’s worried about something, like something is broken. I don’t know. He’s cold with me, never laughs, and seems even a bit depressed.

I didn’t want to hurt him, and now I don’t know how I can fix things. Atmosphere is now complicated with the quarantaine….
 

Christinegirl

Well-Known Member
You have my sympathy, hon, being stuck with him in that atmosphere. Firstly, it's important to say: you haven't done anything wrong. He's ticked off because you beat him. He possibly only wanted to take judo so he could beat his opponent and show them "who's boss". (And I'm pretty sure that's not what martial arts is about, anyway.)

I'd also like to say, your husband is very fortunate that you're so accommodating. I noticed, he didn't do the activity you wanted to do but you gave in and agreed to do the activity he proposed - even though you didn't want to do it at first. But us women are like that, aren't we! We try to please the other person, even if sometimes it's doing something we don't want to do. And being emotionally mature and flexible (behaviorally speaking, like it says in the book in my signature), we make the best of the situation.

When he said he’ll show you “who’s the boss, it’s not like dancing or yoga things…”, I got the impression that maybe he's cocky, arrogant, etc. And then when you beat him - twice! - he had further to "fall" when he had to be humble and admit defeat. Like the old expression goes: pride goeth before a fall.

Of course, he should have bested you. He has military training and he's a guy with upper body strength!
But as too many men aren't emotionally mature, he sulked like a petulant child. And you got hurt because now you have to live with him in a tense home environment until he gets over his mood - if he ever does. (And if he does, it may be because he wants to have sex with you. He might still be mad/disappointed but a lot of guys are happy to have sex with someone, even if he doesn't like the person - it's just a physical release/a way to get an orgasm. Whereas, a woman will often only want to have sex with someone she loves because it's an act of affection for her.)

You're being "punished" when you didn't do anything wrong. He should have been "the bigger man" and been good natured about losing.
You were good natured about having a match with him.
You were good natured about winning. You didn't "stick it under his nose" and ridicule/tease him the way someone else might have done. You even kissed him on the cheek - to let him know there were no hard feelings. You had every right to smile and dance and be happy - that was a noteworthy accomplishment; beating a big, tall ex-marine! He should be grateful that you were a good sport.
And most importantly of all: he should have been happy for you that you excelled in the sport and that you can (hopefully) take care of yourself should you ever have to defend yourself (which I hope you never have to do). It makes me think the only reason he chose judo was to "lord it over you" and now that he sees he can't do that, he doesn't want to do it anymore/it's "a waste of his time". It makes me wonder how much does he care about you.

Don't be surprised if he re-enlists, to try to prove that he's "strong and tough". Anybody can be tough with a gun in their hand. It takes brains to strategize/plan an "attack" to overpower an opponent.

He's possibly "worried" because he's not the skilled fighter he thought he was. But again, that's not your fault, hon. It's not up to you to fix things. I don't think you can - he has to work on himself and become skilled, instead of trying to "bully" other people. A mature person would try to self-improve. But, sadly, too many men aren't emotionally mature - so they take disappointment and turn it into emotional coldness and distance.

You didn't hurt him, hon. His conceited "bullying" mentality did that.
 

isabelle49

New Member
Hello Christinegirl and thank you for your answer!

I'd also like to say, your husband is very fortunate that you're so accommodating. I noticed, he didn't do the activity you wanted to do but you gave in and agreed to do the activity he proposed - even though you didn't want to do it at first. But us women are like that, aren't we! We try to please the other person, even if sometimes it's doing something we don't want to do. And being emotionally mature and flexible (behaviorally speaking, like it says in the book in my signature), we make the best of the situation.

You are so right! Most of the time I have to adapt to what he want and very rarely the opposite.

When he said he’ll show you “who’s the boss, it’s not like dancing or yoga things…”, I got the impression that maybe he's cocky, arrogant, etc. And then when you beat him - twice! - he had further to "fall" when he had to be humble and admit defeat. Like the old expression goes: pride goeth before a fall.

He like to tease me. I don't think he try to hurt or anything but basically he is macho and just like to tease everybody but me in particulary. I tease him back sometimes even if most of the time I just smile and say nothing.

Of course, he should have bested you. He has military training and he's a guy with upper body strength!
But as too many men aren't emotionally mature, he sulked like a petulant child. And you got hurt because now you have to live with him in a tense home environment until he gets over his mood - if he ever does. (And if he does, it may be because he wants to have sex with you. He might still be mad/disappointed but a lot of guys are happy to have sex with someone, even if he doesn't like the person - it's just a physical release/a way to get an orgasm. Whereas, a woman will often only want to have sex with someone she loves because it's an act of affection for her.)

HAHAHA Don't worry I know how men have sex in their mind ;) and that's a bit the point, it's 4 days now...and nothing wich is very unusual.

You were good natured about winning. You didn't "stick it under his nose" and ridicule/tease him the way someone else might have done. You even kissed him on the cheek - to let him know there were no hard feelings. You had every right to smile and dance and be happy - that was a noteworthy accomplishment; beating a big, tall ex-marine! He should be grateful that you were a good sport.

Well to be honest, I thought I have been maybe a bit too far to tease him telling him I'm a ballerina and he is a soldier. i didn't want to humiliate him or make him feel bad. I just find it funny on the moment.

And most importantly of all: he should have been happy for you that you excelled in the sport and that you can (hopefully) take care of yourself should you ever have to defend yourself (which I hope you never have to do). It makes me think the only reason he chose judo was to "lord it over you" and now that he sees he can't do that, he doesn't want to do it anymore/it's "a waste of his time". It makes me wonder how much does he care about you.

That's another great point! I really thought he would be proud of me. I thought he would tell me that he is happy if even I had to defend myself and I can be able to do it... but no :(

Don't be surprised if he re-enlists, to try to prove that he's "strong and tough". Anybody can be tough with a gun in their hand. It takes brains to strategize/plan an "attack" to overpower an opponent.

He's possibly "worried" because he's not the skilled fighter he thought he was. But again, that's not your fault, hon. It's not up to you to fix things. I don't think you can - he has to work on himself and become skilled, instead of trying to "bully" other people. A mature person would try to self-improve. But, sadly, too many men aren't emotionally mature - so they take disappointment and turn it into emotional coldness and distance.

You didn't hurt him, hon. His conceited "bullying" mentality did that.
 

isabelle49

New Member
Early because he was so moody for no reason (4 days now!) I asked him again to tell me what happen and if it’s cause of judo.. He answer no, everything is good. And even for judo he wants a rematch he was not in good shape the last time bla bla bla… I said no it goes to far anyway who care who win? He insist and even propose a bet the looser do the housework part of other during all the rest of the confinment. I was a mad I confess he tried to make me do his very little part because I do almost all the chores alone since the beggining of our relationship for both of us… How can he dare??

Because I dont want to stay in that glacial atmospher I finally said yes… And we had a normal rest of day… And so we’ll do our “rematch” tomorrow..
 

Christinegirl

Well-Known Member
Teasing is often a way that people annoy us and if we say anything, the other person can just say: "Oh, I was only teasing." So we end up looking like the person who "can't take a joke", "you're no fun", etc. They try to make us out like we're in the wrong - and that way, they get away with their obnoxious behavior.
And he'll tease you the most because he knows he can get away with it, you'll put up with it and often not even say anything. I don't think he would treat a police officer like that or someone who was bigger and could punch him in the gut. :D

Does your husband have access to the internet, hon? If so (and he regularly has a sexual appetite), he might be taking care of that himself (with the help of online porn), I'm sorry to say. But I really hope I'm wrong and his need to sulk is more important than his need to have sex with you.

It's his fault for implying that he was the boss (aka a soldier) and you were the ballerina ("it’s not like dancing"…)
See, he teases you at times and you're supposed to put up with it but he can't take a little teasing from you, even though he started it?! He can't stand you enjoying the moment and finding it funny?! Life doesn't work like that!

He should have been proud of you. I'm proud of you and I just "met" you! :) (Maybe he was too busy nursing his bruised ego.) But I often find that strangers will treat us better than family members - people who are supposed to care about us.

So he's using that lame excuse of: "I wasn't myself", "I was feeling under the weather", "I was distracted", etc. etc. is he? You used strategy, hon, and you bested him. I think he's just trying to save face.

I don't like how he's insisting on a rematch, even though you clearly told him you didn't want one.
And I especially don't like how he's manipulating/controlling you by creating such a tense, stressful, (as you said) glacial atmosphere to the point that you'll give in to what he wants, just because you don't want to stay in that environment.
That's how abusers get their way. It's subtle but effective (and they know it). He gives you the silent treatment for days when you do something that "he doesn't quite approve of", knowing it bothers you. That way (in his mind), he's hoping you'll avoid doing it in the future by (for example) letting him win, giving in to what he wants, avoiding saying certain things so as not to "offend" him, etc. It's all control and manipulation, hon.
And he lies about how "everything is good" when a blind person can see that things clearly aren't good - thus maybe getting you to question what you experienced: "Was I imagining things..." when you definitely weren't imagining how he changed towards you (as you said) for four days!

He cares who wins, hon. That's why it bothered him when he lost.

If you win and he does your part of the housework, can you be guaranteed that he'll do it properly?

Please let us know how things go. Good luck, hon.


I like how you put your responses in bold - well done. :)
 

isabelle49

New Member
Teasing is often a way that people annoy us and if we say anything, the other person can just say: "Oh, I was only teasing." So we end up looking like the person who "can't take a joke", "you're no fun", etc. They try to make us out like we're in the wrong - and that way, they get away with their obnoxious behavior.
And he'll tease you the most because he knows he can get away with it, you'll put up with it and often not even say anything. I don't think he would treat a police officer like that or someone who was bigger and could punch him in the gut. :D

Does your husband have access to the internet, hon? If so (and he regularly has a sexual appetite), he might be taking care of that himself (with the help of online porn), I'm sorry to say. But I really hope I'm wrong and his need to sulk is more important than his need to have sex with you.

hahaha well I pretty sure that with the confinment he can't do it. FOr the rest of the time, I regulary check his phone history. I know he can erase it when he want and for now I didn't catch him

It's his fault for implying that he was the boss (aka a soldier) and you were the ballerina ("it’s not like dancing"…)
See, he teases you at times and you're supposed to put up with it but he can't take a little teasing from you, even though he started it?! He can't stand you enjoying the moment and finding it funny?! Life doesn't work like that!

He should have been proud of you. I'm proud of you and I just "met" you! :) (Maybe he was too busy nursing his bruised ego.) But I often find that strangers will treat us better than family members - people who are supposed to care about us.

ow thank you dear ;)

So he's using that lame excuse of: "I wasn't myself", "I was feeling under the weather", "I was distracted", etc. etc. is he? You used strategy, hon, and you bested him. I think he's just trying to save face.

yes he basically find some exuses about his defeat

I don't like how he's insisting on a rematch, even though you clearly told him you didn't want one.
And I especially don't like how he's manipulating/controlling you by creating such a tense, stressful, (as you said) glacial atmosphere to the point that you'll give in to what he wants, just because you don't want to stay in that environment.
That's how abusers get their way. It's subtle but effective (and they know it). He gives you the silent treatment for days when you do something that "he doesn't quite approve of", knowing it bothers you. That way (in his mind), he's hoping you'll avoid doing it in the future by (for example) letting him win, giving in to what he wants, avoiding saying certain things so as not to "offend" him, etc. It's all control and manipulation, hon.
And he lies about how "everything is good" when a blind person can see that things clearly aren't good - thus maybe getting you to question what you experienced: "Was I imagining things..." when you definitely weren't imagining how he changed towards you (as you said) for four days!

He cares who wins, hon. That's why it bothered him when he lost.

If you win and he does your part of the housework, can you be guaranteed that he'll do it properly?

Please let us know how things go. Good luck, hon.


I like how you put your responses in bold - well done. :)
This morning I wake up early and was still mad about how he dare put that bet. I want to make him doing the chores. I want him to understand what is it! So I did jog and made my yoga to be sure to be in my best shape. I thought to not mention the fight and wait if he will...and he did

Soooooo, let's go!!
As before we set the mat and have a good warm up, then make couple of exercices and quickly he proposed me to do it. The atmosphere is a bit strange like it s something serious. He seems nervous

It start and he show that he was serious putting a lot of intensity. We hang each other kimono, turn aorund each others. He tried to throw me I landed of my feet 4 times but the 5th he managed to do it and we fall together. He tried to pin me down but I blocked him with my legs. I struggle it was tough because he outweight me so much but i have powerfull legs. Finally I managed to hold his both sleeves and so I raised up my legs and catch his head with its. I didn't squeeze because I was holding his sleeves he was defendless but he surrender at the second i hold him. I get up without braging and prepare for the next round. He looked disappointed...

We prepare for round 2. He got the same intensity trying to throw me but he started to be tired, he mades a mistake so i counter him and he fall on the ground. I got his back so i wrapped my arms on his neck and made him tap out…

We go for the third one. I was a bit tired but I see that he was totally exhausted… I catch his sleeve really quickly and crotch his leg. Then I lie on him. He struggle but I managed to catch his both wrist with my hands and I pinned its. I consolide my hold by pinning his arms under my knees! It's not a judo move as far as I know but it was efficient because he couldnt move at all. I smile staring at him while I count slowly until 5.

He was exhasuted he has lot of sweat on the forehead (maybe time to quit smoking…)and was out of breath. Without moving my hold I asked him if we are done, he answer yes. I put out my knees but still hold his wrist. I said so no silence during days. He said no and was a bit mad I didn’t let him go so I did tease him a bit to make it laugh and showing it s no big deal.. "It's ok babe if ever there are invaders you'll fight with guns and me bare hands so we are complementary “It s ok to have a kick ass wife there is biggest problem in life!!”,"look Donald TRUMP for sure would loose versus his wife and he is the president of the world!"

I finally got a smile from him so i let his wrist. He said I didn’t understand . He has neevr been mad at me but mad at him. He was disappointed by himself because of lack of exercices and cigaret…when he was younger he was far better…. we talked seriously about men, women and the image the society give us… I did understand more about him… He want to train to be like how he was before and stop smoking. I told him I will help him to be physically better by training him in fitness and helping him to stop cigarets. Together we ll be better person :) … then I kiss him (when he has enough breath) and let him go…

I haven't ask him yet for the chores. He is too exhausted now for sure and I let him a bit time to recover. :)
 

Christinegirl

Well-Known Member
✨ Congratulations, hon!! ✨
I'm so glad you won!! Your husband is very fortunate to have you - someone who is such a good-natured, understanding wife, who's a good sport, and is willing to help him exercise more and stop smoking! I hope he's good at doing the chores, now - it'll help him get into shape. :D

Good. I'm glad he's not cheating on you in addition to his other offenses.

I wish he'd treat you more like his wife and friend, instead of like an opponent/an enemy.
I think he needs to learn the basics of martial arts - the philosophy around it, not just the moves (which, apparently he's not very good at! :D)
Did I say congratulations to you, hon? It's worth repeating. :) And thank you for not letting him win. You're giving him the message that his manipulative tactics don't work - good for you.
I'm proud of you for how you mastered the skill of judo and how you didn't let him intimidate/control you. You're saving yourself a lot of heartache!

Maybe he was mad at himself but I'm sorry, I don't believe him when he says he was never mad at you. If he wasn't mad at you, why did he give you the silent treatment!

Who knows, maybe all this will encourage him to be a little more humble from now on.

Well done, hon. Thank you so much for sharing this with us. I enjoyed it. ☺
 

Claire.ramos

A girl with a lot of dreams
Hello my name is Isabelle.

So Im a beautician and my hubby is an ex military and a bit macho.All is great but with the job, daily things to do, my yoga… I struggle to get some time with him To fix that, we did decide to make some sport together. One month before the virus… What was the more complicated was to find a sport that can fit for both of us. I wanted salsa or a dance sport (im an ex ballerina) but he refuses, he wants tennis but i hate racket sport… So finally after hours of search and discussion he proposed me judo. I first refuse it but because I see we were blocked I said ok let’s try it…

Finally, after 5 lessons, we both had fun going there. I had the feeling to improve and feel really good practicing. We were on the same club, same training but we had our partner for the “fight part” in the end of the lesson. With the virus, we can’t go anymore, so a few days ago, he asked me to practice at home. We used a mat for safety and worked on the moves as in training. After one hour he challenged me in a friendly match, like for the normal session “if I dare” and he’ll show me “who’s the boss, it’s not like dancing or yoga things…”.

It was the first time we have a match together. Well, i practiced ballerina during years and yoga 3 times per week but he outweight me and he is so much taller and he is an ex military so im not too much confident.. but ok let’s try it!

We hang each other kimono and turn around. I quickly noticed the previous exercices tired him more than me. I pull his sleeve, to the left, to the right, I straighten my leg out and fall on him to the ground. He struggle to escape but I pin him and count to 5 (we need to pin the opponent 5 sec to win). his face was all red and while he get up. I don’t know wich one of us wer the mroe surprised. I can’t hide myself from smiling.

Now he seems really focus and we start again. I still smile while he seems really serious. I pull his kimono again and got him the exact same way. On the ground I quickly wrapped my arms around his head and I block his legs with my feet. He struggle but I had a good grip so i count to 5 and win… Before I release himI whisper on his ear “ouch your ballerina got you badly this time, where is the tough soldier now?” and I kissed him in his cheek. I get up (and dance a bit to celebrate i confess) and prepare for the 3rd round but he said he didnt want anymore

Later I struggled not to have a strange silence that can sometimes happen. He says nothing and I make a monologue about housework. It seems that he doesn’t want to do judo anymore. I laugh a bit at first, asking him if it’s because I beat him, but he answers me aggressively that no, he just thinks it’s a waste of time.

I haven’t talked to him about it, but he looks different like he’s worried about something, like something is broken. I don’t know. He’s cold with me, never laughs, and seems even a bit depressed.

I didn’t want to hurt him, and now I don’t know how I can fix things. Atmosphere is now complicated with the quarantaine….
Ohh Isabelle is not your fault hun... you didn’t do anything wrong.

Is his problem for being in that way, he seems to be the typical guy who believes he has to be the strongest person of the family and he’s wrong.

In fact you did something really good, you showed him, we can be as strong as a guy and not for being women we have to be weaker than guys :)

Don’t worry ;-) sure sooner or later he’ll realize he doesn’t has any reason to be in that mood to you.

So I’m really proud of you because you taught him a lesson ^^

Huggies <3
 

isabelle49

New Member
Hi girls!

To be honest I was still mad for the bet so I not only wanted to win but I wanted to kick his ass and teach him a lesson if i can

So after his loose, my husband asked me to train him to become the man he was so, the day after the match we started the training and I did give him hard time :p . We jog for 1 hour, then we make some fitness exercices to finish with some flexibility things. When we finish he is out :p

For the housework, at first I was not sure to ask him anything because I know his ego is still bruised and because he didn’t dare making anything macho anymore. But after the first training, as usual, he put out his clothes and let it in the middle of nowhere with his stuff. He probably expect me to, as usual, do it for him but not today, not anymore! I was pissed off so I asked him gently 2 times that this afternoon he’ll make my chores, the 2 times he ignored me, ok… So I did wait he finished his shower and enter in the bathroom. The room is small he can’t escape. I told him firmly that during the beggining we live together I do for you almost everyday vacuum, mop, cleaning dust on furniture, cleaning the 2 bathroom with the toilets, cleaning the kitchen, cook, buy food online, washing dishes and do the laundry and even your administrative stuff. You never helped me even if you just have to wash the 2cars 1 time per month, fill up the gaz (so nothing during quarantine) 1 time per week and deal with the garbages. I remind him that he dares challenged me and make a bet hoping I’ll do his “part” too. I remind him that I did beat him fair and square so now it’s time to pay for the inappropriate behaviour and as punishment he’ll do all my part alone until the end of the year! He did contest telling it was not part of the deal I answer I didn't care, I don't let him the choice..

He did sulk a bit but made it everyday until now. I realised with his weird questions that it was the first time he use a mop :p :p (dont laugh :p) i did show him and “teach” him how to use each or each product, that was cute :p . To be honest, he doesnt do it greatly I had to check and make him correct when it’s not done well but he does his best.

Now, no need to lie I enjoy a lot my free time :p . For the first time since we are together I did read a book! I took a bath during 1 hour and I finally start to use all the cosmetics I had from the beauty boxes :p I plan to start to learn programing and building a website, I now have time for me and this is soooo good.

It's still fresh but for ,now he has change a bit radically. He doesn't dare saying macho thing or even tease me. He did watch ballet with me!! Ok most of the time he was on his phone and I saw he was bored but he didnt try to take me the remote... He make my coffee and my orange juice the morning...Of course everything is not perfect but I think that it has made him a better person
 

Christinegirl

Well-Known Member
Thank you for getting him into shape and not letting him be lazy (regarding doing the chores), especially after he ignored you - good for you! ;)

I'm so glad you have a lot of free time, now, hon! Housework can be a full-time job, can't it!

If the rest of the confinement lasts until the end of the year, he will have to do your part of the chores for the rest of the year! (I wonder, however, if he's only pretending to not know how to do the chores well and pretending to not know how to do things like mop the floor? I'm glad you make him do the chores properly.)

I'm glad he doesn't tease you or say macho things, anymore. I still say he's lucky to have you - you're helping him to be a better person. :)
 

isabelle49

New Member
Thank you :)

Well I told him it would be until the end of the year, no matter what :) We have a date for the end of the confinment now, it ll be the 11 may. For now he hasn't contest or try to negociate but I think he won't do it until the end of the year without..

I find a great way to make him reduce his smoke. I take his cigarets and he has to ask me when he wants to smoke. I always give him without saying him anything but just by asking me he reduce it per 2!

xoxo
 

isabelle49

New Member
Hello girls,

I litterally haven't been here for years ^^ I hope everything are good for u!

For me it has. On professional aspect I run successfully an online busness while I am still working as beautician. On loving part, and daily balance with my hubby and me things are far better. We share equitably the chores and even if we did stop to train together, we are really close in others way.

Few days ago, a friend who is an accomplised martial artist did come to our home to take some drinks. As we talk suddenly conversation come on him and his judo practice (i did stop and do some bjj now and do again ballerina training) and he mention our previous fight. He admit his defeat but pretend that now with me stopping and doing bjj things would turn differently... Bjj is a martial art that play on the ground and u have to make your opponent tapout.. I told him I highly doubt if we play it on bjj rules.. Our friend was amused and she propose a match with mixed rules, we start the fight stand up and winner have to make opponent tapout.. Iwas a bit mad at first, just because he was drunk and with others people he act as the macho he was and not learning the lesson from the last time.. Anyway I finally accept but if I win I would put the pics online

We made it just after the ballerna training

We start, he did struggle to throw me on floor but finaly he made it but on floor, as I have planned, I catch his arm and made him regret his challenge

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2nd round it was me who put him on floor and this time i got him in scissor
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End of the fight..

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Torrero

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